Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 14/04/2006 15:44:50
Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 14/04/2006 15:36:04 Edited by: Maya Rkell on 14/04/2006 15:28:29 It seems to me that you're reading unwaranted assumptions from your own bias into what I wrote. You are incorrect. I have explained, several times and in detail the probable consequences. You evident cannot read them.
You WILL be a second-class citizen with the old engine. If the new engine has better frame rates, if the new engine will allow you to enable effects, if the new UI is better...all these things will mean that corps will start excluding people who do not run the "good" client. This is NOT speculation - this is precisely what has happened in MUD's with seperate 2D and 2 1/2D clients before.
Incidentally, I am Jewish and I suggest you withdraw the **** references.
Progress does NOT mean making an engine which the majority of your users will NOT be able to use. There is plenty of scope within DX9c, as has been explained many times in this thread, for a world-class graphics engine.
You applaud CCP's efforts to slap the majority of their players in the face, to spit at them ns tell them they they're not good enough because they don't want to install a bloatware IS which has NO advantage for 99% of home users over 2k/XP ONLY for a game. Technology for the pure sake of technology, which is precisely what going with DX10/Vista for an engine update at this time is worse than pointless (And moreover, it is wrong).
As j0 has noted, going with Vista at this stage is going to be highly counter-productive to Eve...I suggest you read this thread rather than just the first post and using your own predudices and bias to see thing shwich were never said, never intended and you twist and misinterpret so you can have a good flame and insult people.
Bring on people who can read and comprehend. Because you're clearly not in tht group.
There are no good reasons I can see not to make an updated DX9c client which will benefit the vast majority of the users of Eve, rather than a Vista/DX10 client which will benefit the minority and by the time the majority of users can use it, it will be in need of a further update anyway...all that serves is to deprive the majority of users of deacent graphics for some years.
(who does ALSO work in said industry)
(Hi Kids! Yes, step and and witness the the techophile vs technology-as-a-tool debate within the games industry )
I stayed home from work today because I'm sick (it being good friday was just a bonus really), so I'll go into detail on this later, but for now:
Maya, quit whining. Goddamn.
Yes, right off the bat, alot of people aren't going to be able to use the new DX10/vista engine, but some of us will, because we're gaming nuts like that. Over time, more and more people will be using Vista, and DX10 video cards. *****ing that some people will be second-class citizens would be like me *****ing to Bethledesa because my raedon 9800 can't run HDR+AA and everything else at max settings for Oblivion, while my brther's 1-month old, best gaming PC money can build atm, PC can.
You won't *need* vista to play EVE, you won't *need* dx10 to play.
If you care so much about graphics, then EVE must be boring for you. The game could be made using the privateer engine and I'd still love it personally. The fact that it'll look damn sweet for people (eventually) is a bonus.
edit: I'm not going to re-read to cut out the quotes I need, but Maya, the people who will be 'second class' citizens are the same people who have play a new game on there old PC with lower settings. You're making such a massive deal out of something so minor that you're making me wish this was a T2/HAC whine thread because those are closer to the truth than your second class citizen BS.
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